Joseph G Blake

In case you are looking for something light on Sunday TV, you might watch the Durrells in Corfu.

Its about a British family who move to Corfu in the 1930s. 

This review in the LA Times tells it well.

William K Dickey

Joe, To return to baseball, as Yogi said,"When you come to a fork in the road, take it!"

John S Bennett

Sunday night TV incomplete without John Oliver|Last Week

Joseph G Blake

New Topic

The PD did a special insert in a recent Sunday edition called "The Heart of Steel."

It's an excellent summary of how Cleveland has changed since 1960. But also revived. 

I have addeda few links you may enjoy.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/10/heart_of_steel_6_lessons_learn.html#0

The first picture is a gas flaring today at the Arcelor Mittal mill.Its now the most productive mill in the world based on one ton of steel for every man hour worked.

But it reminds me of riding the rapid home in the winter after a shopping trip at Higbee's with my mother. It would dark by 500PM and the flames and sparks were amazing. They were also captured by Margaret Bourke White in an early photo series she did circa 1929 of the old Corigan and Mc Kinney Mill (Republic Steel after 1930). 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/10/why_arcelormittal_succeeds_whe_1.html

Excellent story of recovery and rise. The skills needed today are very advanced.

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/10/steelmaking_is_in_these_clevel.html

The workers today.

Hope it brings back memories and also important lessons for the future.

Stewart M Flate

I remember the huge bucket of molten metal being poured.  It looked like a star in space only in motion.  I also remember the sulfur smell which occasionally reached Shaker Hts.

Stewart M Flate

GO TRIBE!!!

Dana Shepard (Treister)

Hmmm - well I don't really follow pro sports much at all; but  - although I did grow up around the corner from Cleveland Indian Tris Speaker's house - I have lived within walking distance of Wrigley Field for the last 42 years - so - I must say, I am excited the THE CUBS are in the World Series!!  You might enjoy this sweet little video from Lincoln Park Zoo (2 blocks from our home, and also within walking distance of Wrigley):

http://www.chicagomag.com/city-life/October-2016/Red-Panda-Cubs

Ken LaVetter

The heart goes where the heart goes: I lived and worked in Downtown Chicago for over 20 years.  During those years I learned that sports teams can actually win Championships.  The '85 Bears were total entertainment and totally great.  The Jordan-Pippen Bulls were etherally other-worldly; Chicagoans planned their week's schedule around Bulls' games.   And everybody - on the North Side - loved the Cubs.  Being at Wrigley Field was a summer ritual, a summer spectacular and if the Cubs happened to win - well, that was just icing on the cake.  The friendly Confines (Wrigley Field) is Summer plus 100.  Still a Browns fan and a Cleveland Browns Backers member (groups of individual Browns fans not residing in Cleveland) for a bunch of years.  And now, without further adieu - I'd be cheering my head off for the Indians if they were playing anybody else - GO CUBS!

Betsy Dennis (Frank)

I am also a heart divided. Terre Haute is Cubs territory and my oldest daughter lived within walking distance of Wrigley Field before moving to Michigan. Go Tribe! Go Cubs!! Dana, I forgot about Tris Speaker. I remember meeting him at some point because my Dad used to travel with the Indians as radio engineer.

Roger Schulman

Growing up in Cleveland, of course I was an Indians fan.  Even thought the Yankees spoiled my dreams almost every year.  I moved to Chicago for my senior year and the Cubbies were so lovable.  In the mid 80's I had 3:05 pm season tickets for the Cubs businessman's special.  Aside from 5 years in the 80's I have been in Los Angeles since 1976.  I was very conflicted when the Dodgers played the Cubs in this year's playoffs.  Now the deepest feelings of loyalty force me to root for the Tribe, although the Cubbies are still lovable.  This has been a very conflicted season for me, but a great problem to have.  All my teams were good.

William K Dickey

Living for 40+ years in NY metro area, l never wavered in my loyalty to the tribe.  The down side was my son is an AVID Yankee fan, as well as my wife, who grew up in Utica.  This year, living in Cleveland once again, my wife has become a tribe fan, listening to Tom Hamilton on the radio;  just like my dad used to listen to Jimmy Dudley.  GO TRIBE.

Gary D Hermann

I'm rooting for the Tribe, but I have feelings for the Cubs too.  I always joke that any defects I have as a lawyer are because, when I was attending law school at Northwestern, I would regularly take afternoons off, jump on the "L", and go to Wrigley Field to watch the Cubs.    In those days, the Cubs had terrific players like Ernie Banks, Ferguson Jenkins, Ron Szanto, but those teams were well known for winning a lot of games early on, but then not winning their division because of long losing streaks at the end.   So, Cubs fans know some of the same heartbreak us Cleveland fans have had.   Like Progressive Field, Wrigley Field is also one of the great ballparks for both charm and watching a game.

Gary D Hermann

Also, thanks to Dana for reminding us about Tris Speaker's house.   I used to ride my bike by his house, which I think was at or near the corner of Scottsdale and Avalon.    He was pretty revered by Cleveland fans.

George Divoky

I have lived in Seattle since the 1980s and have had Mariners and Seahawks fans ask me why I still root for the Indians and Browns instead of Seattle teams.  They were especially incredulous in the mid-1990s when the Indians were playing the Mariners in the playoffs and wondered why, since I had lived in Seattle for a decade, I had not switched my baseball allegiance. My response was to ask them how long it would take for them to switch from the religion of their youth to some other faith simply because as an adult they lived in close proximity to another religion's chuch or temple.

When I was asked why I, like the majority of Seattleites, was not enthusiastically backing the Seahawks during ther recent winning seasons, I pointed out that adopting a team when it is winning or abandoning a team when it is losing are signs of an immature fan base - and Cleveland's fan base is nothing if not mature.

When the Seahawks had the audacity to win a Super Bowl before the Browns had even gone to one, I told my Seahawk fan friends I don't accept the results of any Super Bowl won by an "expansion team". 

GO TRIBE!!

Dana Shepard (Treister)

And Gary, thanks for reassuring ME that Tris Speaker's house really WAS right where I thought it was - on  Avalon between Scottsdale and Invermere!  I grew up on Avalon between Lomond and Scottsdale and my Uncle Bud and his family were on Invermere.  My Uncle Bud Fisher was a sports writer for the Cleveland News until it folded - so he was my Cleveland sports connection.

Alaina Weisman (Zachary)

I have always been an Indians fan... Except for my New YOrk years when I was a Yankee gal, but we had Pennant Parade on Morley Road when the Indians took the pennant in 195- something.  Vic Wertz!! Herb Score!!!!  When I come to town for Thanksgiving, I"m gonna buy some new tees no matter the outcome.

Phyllis Hammer (Gubanc)

I've lived in Columbus since 1984, and the fanatical Ohio State Buckeye adulation down here has cemented my love for and loyalty to Cleveland. Frankly, I was surprised that, following 9/11, the local news and papers devoted so much attention to *that* event when Ohio State Buckeye season was upon us. Only partially joking, too. Regarding Chicago, I must say that, despite travels all over this country and other countries, there's something about Chicago...I *love* that city. And Wrigley Field. But still rooting for the Indians!!

Roger Schulman

George put it well.  I am an Indians fan because you can't take Shaker out of the boy.  We lived on Rye Road, a couple of houses from Spud Goldstein, the traveling secretary of the Indians.  He would have parties with some of the team at his home and invite neighborhood kids.  I got to meet quite a few of the players.  A big deal for a young kid who was a rabid fan.  I also sold peanuts and popcorn at Municipal Stadium because Bruce Friedlander's dad, Alvie, ran the concessions.  I was small and that was the lightest to carry.  I tried to work the box seats where I knew some of the ticket holders.....fun memories.

Thomas E Fuerst

To all the wonderful & faithful Tribe fans, I'd like to invite you to come visit me at League Park.  I have been volunteering there for the past 2 years.  It was the original home of the Cleveland Indians and was built in the 1890's, and also was home to the Naps, Buckeyes, Grays, etc.  When Bill Veck purchased the team, they played their last game there in 1946.  It iis located in the Hough Community at 66th and Lexington Ave., just north of Chester Ave.  It is also the home of the Baseball Heritage Museum.  The history here is amazinng.  Babe Ruth hit his 500th home run, Joe D. got his 56th hit here, only to be stopped the following night at Municipal Stadium, and Cy Young pitched the opening game.  All the greats played there, i.e. Satchel Paige, Bob Feller, Shoeless Joe, Ted Williams, and on and on.  The field is open, and you are free to roam.  Admission is free, and it is open every Saturday from 10:00 to 2:00.  Whether you live in Cleveland, or are stopping back for a visit, I'd love to greet you and give you a tour.

Larry L Nudelman

Being an Indians fan was probably in my blood form my birth.  My Dad was a staunch Indians "Fanatic" . He was fourty when he went to the Indians world series in 1948.  His brother in law had a consession stand there selling pennents, peanuts, and baloons, so he was able to get decent tickets. He would take me to a few games after I was in my early teens, it was a Father and son time with my older brother.  Later with having to make a living for the family, I would maybe go with my older brother.  In 1968 my Parents moved to Florida's west coast, but my father would go to the indians training camps, to see his "Home Town Team" play.  My Son and Daughter, taking after their mother in the inteligance area would always win 6 or 8 tickets each year from the tribe for their exceptional grades and would take me for a few family games.   Every summer when  my Dad came to Cleveland, to escape the Florida heat we would still have a Father-Son time at the old stadium. He never had the same "Love" for the new stadium, he said it didn't have character.  Till he was 91 we went to see his team, and he would say, "when are these Bums, going to win another world series?"  Wait a couple more Days Dad!!  Go Tribe!

Joseph G Blake

League Park is still there. What did they do with it after 1946? Good to know. Next time i must go there on a visit. 

We have 4 chidlren. We left Cleveland in 1979 to live in England. Two were born in Cleveland and two in the UK.

But two of them are die hard Cleveland Indians and Browns fans. Its in their blood. I once read a Browns fan club member in NYC say "You cannot just be a Browns fan. You are born one."

When we moved back to the US in 1985 I soon discovered my son was an Indians and Browns fan even though we lived midway between NYC and Philadlephia. His sister born in the UK soon followed his example. I eventually gave her the framed edition of the Press with the headlines for the 1948 World Series win. 

For years despite working in NYC Ted had season tickets for the Browns which my older brother did as well when he was a bachelor on Wall Street. Like someone said, its in our blood.

Go Tribe.

William K Dickey

Tom Fuerst, I will take you up on your offer.  Are you there every Saturday?  I have many memories of watching my older brother play sandlot ball at League park in the mid-50's with the Shaker team (read Mr. Heinlen) sponsored by "Old Meadow".  Also of note, my grandfather of Osborn Engineering designed and oversaw building of both League park and Municipal Stadium.  He reportedly was friends with Gehrig and Ruth among others.  Needless to say, baseball runs deep in my family genes.  

William L Kahrl

Our daughter Christina is a writer/producer with ESPN. Before the current series began she took part in a roundtable discussion with other prominent baseball analysts.  When asked which city's fan base deserved a World Series title more, she answered "I'd say Cleveland fans, but I'm biased because I have a whole bunch of family in Ohio who root for the Indians and a dad whose interest in the game as a kid was apparently derailed by the team's 1954 World Series loss. He picked the Browns as the less likely source of heartbreak, which sort of captures in a nutshell why it has to be Cleveland."  She should have said deranged instead of derailed.

Andrew Inglis

​That darn 1954 World Series just won't go away.  My brother Jimmy and I suffered through all four games, listening at home on our radio.  The name "Dusty Rhodes" still gives me flashbacks.

​On a more personal note, a couple of years later I was in sixth grade at Boulevard and someone had the bright idea of having Boulevard play Onaway in baseball.  We thought we were pretty decent, but we heard they had a pitcher named Jerry something or other.  That of course was Jerry Goetz.  They also had this fiery intense kid named Bill Dickey, who played shortstop or something.  i still remember them both. We did not have a chance.  The next year Goetz was in my homeroom (or was I in his?) and Bill was in some of my classes. What luck!

​Nowadays, for most sports, I follow the dramas but do not watch the games.  It must be wonderful and exciting for The Best Location in the Nation to be one game away from winning the World Series.  Larry Doby would be thrilled.  

Betsy Dennis (Frank)

This series brings back memories of my Dad who was the broadcast engineer for the Indians in the days of Jack Graney and Jimmy Dudley.