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01/08/21 09:34 AM #987    


Betsy Dennis (Frank)

Thanks Jan. Not sure when we will get to England again, but nice to know. Be well! Betsy

01/08/21 09:36 AM #988    


Betsy Dennis (Frank)

Good morning all, What I find interesting is how many of us felt out of place in high school. I never was popular. I had just a few friends. Yet, we all turned out OK. This is a powerful lesson in growing up. Be well all. Betsy

01/09/21 01:47 PM #989    


Dana Shepard (Treister)

To "Jimmy Reese" -- as I remember you from our Lomond days:

I've morphed this conversation from the "In Memory" page to the "Message Forum".

RE your question about the photo below>>>

Ha ha, of course I have all the names!  And what does it say about ME that I can name many of us without looking at the names?  Something about at our age having diminished short-term memory but... ?!

I will attampt to attach Side B of the 1st grade class photo.  Note the sloppy writing is mine, from maybe high school?  The very neat precise printing was my mother's - and she has been gone 21 yrs.  The missing names neither she nor I remembered.



(Question from JAMES REESE: Great picture, but too many I can't remember their names. A few I just can't recognize, but I guess you've got the names of everyone.)

LEE HANDEL was in my first grade class at Lomond School.  He is top row far right, I am bottom row far left.

While my relationship with Lee was mainly way back in our Lomond School days, I do have fond memories of a very kind gentle boy, and was saddened by the news of his death.


01/10/21 12:45 PM #990    

Gary D Hermann

Great picture.  Though my signature is not on it, I do see that my picture is the top row third from the left.   Thanks for sharing.

01/10/21 08:17 PM #991    


Dana Shepard (Treister)

Gary - your name IS on the top row, 3rd from left - in my mother's very precise handwriting! 

(None of the "signatures" were made by the first graders - the messy handwriting was mine, from maybe 6th or 7th grade and the neat printing was my mom's.)

;     )


01/11/21 02:31 PM #992    

Gary D Hermann

I guess I didn't look very carefully.    I do remember some of the others on the photograph who weren't mentioned, like Bobby Kidd, who lived three doors down from me.    When I was in first grade, he was much bigger than I was and used to terrorize me (and beat me up) on the way to Lomond School.  That changed when my normally mild-mannered and otherwise dimunitive mother (who had grown up a tomboy) showed me how to respond to the bullying and bloody Bobby's nose by driving the heel of my hand straight up under his nose.   To my surprise, I succeeded and, as my mother predicted, Bobby stopped being a bully and, in fact, became my best friend for many years and actually turned out to be a nice guy (maybe the experience changed him too).  That was one thing about Lomond school:  When you spent all that time on the playground, as I did, you came across bullies and received your share of hard knocks from people.  Some would say that Lomond School made many of us streetwise and taught us how to handle bullies. 

01/11/21 03:27 PM #993    

Joseph G Blake

I hesitate to tell this story. My family lived in Shaker for 61 years - I should say my mother who was there as young bride and then did all three phases in Shaker. Young married in a two family, then raised a family and lived in a house they built in 1930 in Fernway and finally the widow phase on upper Van Aken. 

I started at Fernway and then for the best of intentions I was sent elsehwere and loathed it for years. Then came back to Shaker when my parents realized what a mistake they had made. My time at Shaker High were like a dream. I felt fully accepted and very happy, I wish t had been longer. 

I am so pleased to have reconnected with many of you at our reunions at 40, 50 and 55 years and even to bore you with every detail about the developement of Shaker Heights. But I never could have written that but for the time I spent with Mr Burnett who taught me how to write a simple sentence. 

But I also recall what it was like not to fit in and I am afraid sometimes teenagers can be the Lord of the Flies, especially males but that is a topic for another time. 

I regard my time at Shaker, some professors in college and the Marines in Vietnam as formative to who I am. 

One of my nieces once said of me and my siblings, "You can take them out of Shaker but you cannot take the Shaker out of them." 



01/12/21 08:47 AM #994    


Betsy Dennis (Frank)

Once again Mr. Burnett shows up. He also really honed in my writing skills. As one who has published professionally, I can't thank him enough. The power of a good teacher!

01/12/21 12:22 PM #995    


Alaina Weisman (Zachary)

A Burnett stand out for me was the sign he kept in onr of his desk drawers: KEEP COOL AND DON'T PANIC. Anyone else remember that he would take this out before exams?

01/12/21 03:34 PM #996    

Gary D Hermann

I may have already said this, but Mr. Burnett was one of two teachers my senior year who set the stage for an immature high schooler with minimum confidence in his intellectual abilities (me) to do well in college and later in law school.  When my senior year at Shaker started, our family was temporarily living near Shaker Square and I recall waiting for the Rapid Transit on the way to school, and telling my sister how I had been assigned to this English teacher named Mr. Burnett who I heard was impossibly difficult and not very nice (and who I not yet met because he had missed the first few days of school because his father died).  I then noticed that there was a man standing next to us who gave me a strange look when he heard me saying all these things.   I assumed it was because I was smoking a cigarette and/or because I was wearing a leather jacket and unkempt, and generally looked like a hoodlum.  As it happened, I had been standing next to Mr. Burnett, who later gave me a hard time that first day in his class. I was clearly one of his least accomplished students (the class was mostly high achievers, most of whom were National Merit Finalists and Semi Finalists (the few of us who were not called ourselves "the dumb kids"). For some reason, and despite the bad start (or maybe because of it), Mr. Burnett took an interest in me, probably viewing me as a project.  In any case, to my shock, I ended up doing well in his class, spent quite a few evenings and afternoons after school at his apartment reading poetry (which, at the time, I thought was stupid--and even told him so).  Ultimately, we developed a long-lasting friendship.  When I was in the Army and temporarily stationed at Fort Benjamin Harrison in Indiana in 1971, I visited him at his home in Boswell and saw how many letters he had received from a large cross section of Shaker students of all kinds who obviously revered him--not all of whom were top students.  High school was not much fun for me,  but Mr.  Burnet was one of the exceptions.  A wonderful man.

Of course, as a parent, I could not help myself and drove our children crazy when I would occasionally review some of their papers and then tried to have them conform with the rules Mr. Burnett (and Strunk and White) had taught me.   Years later, our kids realized how important it was to be a good writer and all indicated their appreciation for helping them move towards acquiring the right writing skills.  I would always tell them how I was just passing on what I had learned from Mr. Burnett.   When I later spent years mentoring an inner city high schooler (who never knew his father and had a mother who was a crack-head), I realized early on that the Cleveland schools absolutely failed to teach basic writing skills, and then made the young man understand how important it was for him to become a competent writer and then pushed him to acquire those skills.  Of course, this included familiarizing him with some of the rules I had learned.   Eventually, he not only graduated from college but was accepted into a Phd program.   In short, his legacy has gone way beyond his students. 



01/12/21 04:00 PM #997    


Dana Shepard (Treister)

To Gary Herman regarding our first grade picture:

I am assuming Bobby Kidd must be the "kid" between Judy Bachman and me in the front row, inasmuch as I think that is the only unidentified boy?  Amazing how that memory of The Class Bully has stayed with you ever since...  Can you provide any of the missing girls' names?

01/12/21 04:06 PM #998    

Holly Spector (Rundberg)

Thanks for posting the class picture. I have mine also, and when I can will look for it and possibly fill in some names.

Holly Spector Rundberg

01/12/21 04:15 PM #999    


Dana Shepard (Treister)

OOPs! Of course I MEANT to type " between Judy GERBER and me"... Sorry, Judi Bachman!

01/13/21 09:21 AM #1000    


Betsy Dennis (Frank)

Gary, My undergraduate and graduate program nursing students have been a legacy to Mr. Burnett as well. I think we often forgot the power of a good teacher. How fortunate we all were to have had him. I still remember some of the assignments we had. 


01/13/21 09:37 AM #1001    

Dick Margulis (Margulis)

Another fan of Mr. Burnett here. I've mentioned him and his methods many times in professional editing contexts. He taught me to write, as with many others, and that ability has stood me in good stead ever since.

01/13/21 11:43 AM #1002    

Joseph G Blake

Let me add, I had Mr Burnett for two years. So he shaped me. I recall he had a list on a chalkboard which listed names of students who were late on an assignment under the heading of pariahs. It was usually male athletes  whose names I will now pledge to forget.

In re writing, years ago I had JP Morgan &Co. as a client. The subject .of the Van Sweringens came up in a conversation with a senior executive aound 1995. I gave him my senior thesis about them to read. He sent me a letter to say how well I wrote. I wanted to share the letter with Mr Burnett only to determine he had died some years before. But wherever he may be now  I am sure he knows and there are no pariahs.

Another great English teacher was Burton Randall who died in the last few years. I never had him but I saw a beautiful trinute that Willy Karl wrote about him. Again, another great one. I suppose the best to say thanks now is to give to the Shaker Schools Foundation to which  I make a donation every year in memory of Buddy Greiner, my best friend at Shaker and a few others who graduated in other years. 

01/13/21 12:04 PM #1003    

Gary D Hermann


You are correct.  Bobby Kidd is the one between you and Judy.   I remember him well because we lived so close to each other and saw each other frequently. 

I'm not sure about the unnamed girls. 

01/13/21 04:27 PM #1004    


William K Dickey

Joe Blake, I first heard that the quote was  "you can take the boy out of Shaker but cannot take Shaker out of the boy". It came from Joanne Woodward referring to her husband, Mr Newman.  Not sure if that was the origin of it. 

01/14/21 11:11 AM #1005    

Joseph G Blake


I am confident that my niece stole the line from Joanne Woodward. I am flalttered that she associated us with our most illustrious alumnus. Newman did so much good and even now I buy his salad dressing. He was also a Kenyon alumnus. He was very generous to the school as well. 

Hope you are well. Still at the Greenbriar on Van Aken?

Maybe we could establish a fund at the Shaker Schools Foundation to honor class mates and call it the Burnett Randall Fund.



01/14/21 11:42 AM #1006    

Margery Lynn Perlberg (Rapport)

Well, Dana, it's amazing how many people I can recognize in your first grade class.  It's pretty weird for sure!  I never had Mr. Burnett, so I can't speak to his teaching.  I think I only lasted a few weeks in his class.  

Margie Perlberg Rapport

01/15/21 12:41 PM #1007    


William K Dickey

Yes, Joe we remain at the the Greenbriar near Avalon. I do think of you whenever we pass your old house on our occasional neighborly walks.
I also never had the pleasure of learning from Mr Burnett. From all the comments on here it is obvious he was remarkable. My most memorable teachers were Fred Holzhauser (Math), James Bresnicky (Latin), and Earl Seidman (English).  Tho older I get the more thankful and impressed by our good fortune to be at Shaker. 

01/15/21 12:49 PM #1008    


Lesley Dormen

Well, here I was feeling cheated that I never "had" Mr. Burnett for English.  I turned out to be a writer anyway.  Thank you, Bill, for reminding me of Earle Seidman (Semanteme? Wasn't that the name of our literary magazine?) and my favorite of all teachers, James Bresnsicky.  Love to you all, Dr. Dormen.


01/16/21 10:48 AM #1009    


Betsy Dennis (Frank)

Dr. Dorman, I find it very interesting that many of us have publised works and creative works that have been displayed. I think this is a testament to he solid education we received in the Shaker schools.  Dr. Frank :)

01/16/21 12:09 PM #1010    

Joseph G Blake

There was a deep commitment to education in Shaker from early days..The Vans planners decided where all the schools would be and of course also recruited three private schools as well. The buildings and the and land available to them are generous even today. There was a commitment to excellence from the beginning. There is still that commitment today albeit it faces new challenges today. Laura Meckler is a Shaker grad circa 1980s who writes for the Washington Post. She did a long piece not too long ago about imtefration in Shaker.

I have talked with her several times. She is planning a book about Shaker. I helped her with sources etc. 

The article mentions John and Dorothy Pegg who were the first black couple to buy a home in Ludlow in the late 50s. They later lived on South Park. and we as a young married couple rented the apartment over their garage. It was really a small house in terms of space. Dorothy lived to be 104 and was still n the board of the Cleveland Institute of Music when she died.

There is an FB page called Growing UP in Shaker where many reminisce  about their Shaker memories. Some of you may find of interest. 

Bill, I hope our old home is OK. It got bought to rent back during the housng crisis 2010. The then owner took a big loss based on the price paid in 2005 and the sale price then. 

Don't forget the Shaker Schools Foundation. 


01/16/21 05:04 PM #1011    

Cheryl Kushner (Lane)

Joe, did I tell you that I visited my homesite at Menlo and Hampstead when I was in Cleveland, and my house along with 2 neighbors' houses were demolished and the site turned into a park?  There were many of these mini-parks in the neighborhood.  I felt devastated.  Terri Gelb Kline: your house was untouched!

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